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  Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd

  by Recovery in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.

  i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.

  1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.

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  raymond frantz

  " Νηψων ανομηματα μη μοναν ωψην " this is for you RECOVERY and your GB idol ,when you learn Greek one day you will learn what that means and how to use it .You can read it backwards and forwards the same
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  Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd

  by Recovery in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.

  i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.

  1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.

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  raymond frantz

  If someone is in heaven and serves inside the temple of God which is in heaven "εν τω ναω" what dramatic evidence can you provide for the opposite?Why don't you just admit the truth ? The one that 99.99% of other christian denominations know already ?That the great crowd is a heavenly group of spritual creatures and that the only reason the WT wants them on earth SO desperately is to support their "clergy" class of which only 9 have the special priviledge of changing doctrine whereas the rest of the "anointed " on earth are non existant or not consulted in any way. This has been the most upseting twisted doctrine that stops 7,5 million partaking of the emblems every year and making a mockery of Jesus memorial .Get over it we're only going to heaven (hopefully without Antony Morris and co ,who are going to hell ,and that is a fact)
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  Was it all for nothing ? We can't we start over again ?

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know 99% of the posts here are for exposing wt doctrines and fallacies ,but there was a time that we really believed that we had full bible understanting .i know now that this is the case ,but why can't we use that as a starting point rather than the end of the road ?

  why can't we be more like the jews of john the baptist's day that acknoledged their errors and started over again by whiping the slater clean and getting baptised in expectation of the messiah's coming ?.

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  raymond frantz

  Mission accomplished for Satan then
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  Was it all for nothing ? We can't we start over again ?

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know 99% of the posts here are for exposing wt doctrines and fallacies ,but there was a time that we really believed that we had full bible understanting .i know now that this is the case ,but why can't we use that as a starting point rather than the end of the road ?

  why can't we be more like the jews of john the baptist's day that acknoledged their errors and started over again by whiping the slater clean and getting baptised in expectation of the messiah's coming ?.

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  raymond frantz

  I know 99% of the posts here are for exposing WT doctrines and fallacies ,but there was a time that we really believed that we had full Bible understanting .I know now that this is the case ,but why can't we use that as a starting point rather than the end of the road ? Why can't we be more like the Jews of John the Baptist's day that acknoledged their errors and started over again by whiping the slater clean and getting baptised in expectation of the Messiah's coming ?
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  Possibly The Most Important Issue Of Our Time

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does the us government have highly advanced technology that it is concealing?.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n0fo_htf5s&feature=youtu.be.

  forget the obamney election.

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  I believe that aliens are nothing but demons and have always been in contact with the top elite of the most powerful goverments ,if we're living close to Jesus' Second Coming then many things will take place that will be hard to explain .Read Josephus's Antiquities for the last days of the Jewish systems and see how many ufo refences you can count
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  Possibly The Most Important Issue Of Our Time

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does the us government have highly advanced technology that it is concealing?.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n0fo_htf5s&feature=youtu.be.

  forget the obamney election.

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  Beware ,there are many senior citizens here that don't understand the alien agenda fully

  
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  Did You Know A Lot Of Elders That Simply Weren't Too Bright?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i did.. most of the elders were decent men but i'd say a third weren't the brightest bulbs in the sky..

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  Not a surprise ,most elders in most Kingdom Halls are below average IQ .

  Reasons :

  1. They are chosen on not how bright or how well versed are in the Bible but for how loyal they are to mother organisation
  2. 70% of the time they come from the same family i.e. if your dad is an elder you will find it twice as easy to become one compared to one who has no such affiliations
  3. Critical thinking left the building after '75 ,so you will find JW's are become more stupid every year
  4. GB is against higher education so things will get worse
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower SUICIDE . How many JW suicides can you recall?

  by Anti-Cult in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  how many jw suicides can you recall?.

  is it more common than the rest of society?.

  i personally know of 5.

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  3 ,one only last month ,young brother left a little girl behind
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  Does the Watchtower really parallel 1st Century Christianity?

  by Emery in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wanted to get a list of arguments that illustrate how the watchtower society is or isn't following 1st century christianity today.

  thanks again everyone!.

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  raymond frantz

  First Christians were allowed to debate doctrine in their coongration without fear .Next time you go to the meeting RECOVERY put your hand up and ask "Where does the Bible say that we are not supposed to celebrate Birthdays?" The God-eLDERS will give you a little 3 man judicial comittee ,because they and their "Pope like " clergy have the right to DECTATE doctrine ,you are just there to fill the hall and if you dare think otherwise you will be disfellowshiped in next to no time . Even in Jesus' day Pharisees allowed their "ham-harrets" to pick what ever scroll they lliked and and read and explain in the synagogue .The Watchtower head quarters and these rats living in there need to be closed down and WTS to come to an end .No more broken families ,no more broken minds ,no more people bleeding to death .Please God help us,Amen.
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  Did Russell Believe Anything Witnesses Do Now?

  by konceptual99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this weeks wt study got me thinking as to if there was anything major that pre 1914 bible students believed that would be accepted by modern day witness.. as far as i can tell, they throught:.

  1 - the last days had started in 1799.

  2 - christ's presence had stated in 1874.

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  raymond frantz

  Russell ,didn't take him much time to start calling himself the angel of Laodicia